The end и end в чем разница

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"An end" or "the end" in titles

I would like to know why the article «an» is used in the title:

An End, Once and for All
(a song title off a video game soundtrack)

However, The Beatles have a song called The End.

And is there a rule or it depends on the creators?

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These two phrases mean two different things.

«An End, Once and For All» implies that this is an open-ended ending.

If this is from the Mass Effect 3 soundtrack as a simple Google search shows, it’s probably pretty obvious to you that there were multiple endings and plot holes, ergo, the open-ended-ness of the song title.

«The End» implies nothing and lets us know quite firmly that this is the end.

It was a song that not marked the end of the medley, but also the last song recorded by the four Beatles collectively, and thus, appropriately enough, the end.

So it’s important to note that context means (almost) everything, not only grammar.

The end и end в чем разница

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In the end и at the end — разница

Есть ли разница между выражениями in the end и at the end? Это нам и предстоит сегодня выяснить. Данные выражения — это тот самый случай, когда предлоги в корне меняют значение. Но обо все по-порядку.

Разница между in the end и at the end

in the end at the end разница

  • We are going away at the end of the month. (Мы уезжаем в конце месяца)

При этом конец чего-либо может быть как что-то физическое, так и абстрактное понятие.

  • At the end of the street (В конце улицы);
  • At the end of the day (В конце дня);
  • At the end of the game (В конце игры);
  • At the end of June (В конце июня).
  • You’ll find a jewellry shop at the end of the street. (В конце улицы ты найдёшь ювелирный магазин);
  • Let’s talk about it at the end of the day. (Давай поговорим об этом в конце дня);
  • They told me at the end of the intereview that they hired me. (В конец собеседование мне сказали, что берут меня на работу).

Противоположное значение at the end имеет выражение at the beginning (В начале чего-либо).

  • We’re going away at the beginning of August. (Мы уезжаем в начале августа)

In the end

in the end и at the end разница

Рассмотрим другой пример

  • We wanted to cook something. But in the end we ordered pizza. (Мы хотели что-нибудь приготовить, но в итоге заказали пиццу)
  • She always said that she fed up with her job. In the end she quit. (Она всегда говорила, что сыта по горло своей работой. В итоге она уволилась);
  • I tried to learn Chinese. But I gave up in the end. (Я пытался выучить китайский. Но в конце концов бросил);
  • We couldn’t decided where to go. In the end we stayed home. (Мы не могли решить куда пойти. В итоге остались дома).

Противоположное значение in the end, имеет выражение at first (В начале, по началу)

The difference between an end and the end

Our conversation came to an end.
Our conversation came to the end.

Our lesson is coming to an end.
Our lesson is coming to the end.

His time at work has come to an end.
His time at work has come to the end.

Which ones are good?

Grumpy Old Man
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Ivan_I
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Hildy1
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Ivan_I
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dojibear
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The the version usually has a possessive, saying it is a specific end: the end of this conversation. Note the subject of the verb "came" is "we", not "conversation":

We came to the end of the conversation.
We came to the conversation‘s end.

"A/an" is used without the possessive. It means that an ending happened to the conversation. The subject is the conversation.

Our conversation came to an end.
Our conversation ended.

Ivan_I
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Dojibear, thank you. To tell you the truth. It’s a bit unthinkable for languages without articles. What is the practical difference (how does this difference manifest itself in physical world? I mean

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The conversation came to an end.
We came to the end of the conversation.

I think in reality we have the same end.

Another thing which is confusing is "an end" which means "one of the ends". (Isn’t it too much of semantics for a simple notion?)

I am just pondering over it. it’s interesting how natives take it.

dojibear
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  • 10 Дек 2018
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The example is very odd. The "end of a conversation" isn’t a physical thing. Literally it is the moment in time when a thing (the conversation) stops existing. But we use grammar that was designed (or came to exist) for physical objects:

— Which end of the cart connects to the horse? Does it matter? Can I just connect an end?
— No, only the front end works, dummy.

It would make perfect sense to use different words for the start and end of a time period (or a conversation). Some languages do that. English re-uses "begin/end" (or "start/finish"). If you want to understand "a vs. the", don’t use such an odd example. Use a simple physical object, until you are comfortable with that. Then look at the metaphors.

I study Chinese (no articles, no plural nouns). I’ve noticed that where English uses "a", Chinese often uses "one of". Where English uses "the", Chinese often uses "this, that". It may help to think of "a/an" as "one" and "the" as "this/that/these/those". That is just a guess, since I haven’t studied Russian.

In English the rule is that all countable nouns need a "determiner" before them. A determiner can be an article, or a number (one), a possessive (my, Bill’s), or several other words (this, that, each, few, many, which, what, etc.). You don’t use an article if there is another determiner:

— The conversation reached an end.
— The conversation reached its end.
— A conversation only has one end.

Ivan_I
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I think that is a debatable statement. Look what wiki has to say about time being a physical thing.

Time — Wikipedia
Time is one of the seven fundamental physical quantities in both the International System of Units and International System of Quantities. Time is used to define other quantities – such as velocity – so defining time in terms of such quantities would result in circularity of definition.

I agree that maybe it’s not a thing as such but it is a physical phenomenon. Plus, I didn’t call time a physical thing at all, I just said "What is the practical difference (how does this difference manifest itself in physical world?"

Literally it is the moment in time when a thing (the conversation) stops existing. But we use grammar that was designed (or came to exist) for physical objects:

— Which end of the cart connects to the horse? Does it matter? Can I just connect an end?
— No, only the front end works, dummy.

In that case it is important.

It is possible to apply it in Russian as well. But it doesn’t always make sense. Let’s rephrase our examples using "a/an" as "one" and "the" as "this/that/these/those"

— The conversation reached an end. = The conversation reached one of its ends.
As soon as I realize that there are more than one end I ask myself "What are the other ones?"

How do we tell them one from another? I am pretty sure that in terms of time any end of a conversation is the same end.

We came to the end of the conversation.
Our conversation came to an end.

So, in our physical world either we use "the end" or "an end" we get the same end unless we indicate the nature of such an end. I mean if we want a conversation to end in a certain way then I can see how "the end" can be used and it looks justified to me.

Our conversation came to the end which we had wanted to have. (But as I said, it’s not about the time but about the content of the end of a conversation)

But when we simply want to point out a conversation’s end then it becomes puzzling (for me at least) "How come we have more then one end of a conversation?"

Yes, of course, however, there is a third option not to use an article at all. For example, as far as I know relatives don’t use articles addressing one another, right? You don’t say to your father "A father!" or "The father!".

I am just sharing some thoughts caused by the confusion caused by the issue. Of course, English works the way it works.

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